Demon Rat asked:


These are good community leaders like La Raza who help make immigrants lives a lot easier in the USA?

So just wondering if any of you think its a worthy and good cause?

Free Bird asked:


A march is scheduled for Sunday in Buncombe County, calling for “an immediate end to attacks against the immigrant community”…according to one march organizer. The march stems from the round-up of workers said to be illegal immigrants at the Mills Manufacturing Co. in Woodfin. After the round-up, 29 workers were released by Customs agents in order to care for their children. Reports are that five were deported, ten more were releaed under bond, three others are still detained, and three are unaccounted for. The Asheville Citien-Times newspaper reported on Friday that Hendersonville sympathizers with the protesters will also be marching this Sunday. According to the Citizen-Times:

Hendersonville, marchers will meet at Patton Park and walk to a church, continuing on to the Henderson County Courthouse. Since July 1, Henderson County sheriff’s deputies have deported at least 83 people through a program that allows them to act as immigration agents, march organizers said.

Please read complete story @ http://www.whkp.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1301

JAG asked:


Click on link to see flyers.Los Angeles, CA - “The struggle continues for legalization and to beat back the new attacks of the Bush administration, including the new policy of beefing up ICE enforcement at worksites and further militarization the border,” says Carlos Montes, one of the organizers of the planned Aug. 18 mass march for immigrant rights. The L.A. march will start at noon at Olympia and Broadway. Large-scale civil disobedience is set for the same week

The groups organizing the protest include the March 25 Coalition, the May 1 National Movement, Hermandad Mexicana Trans-Nacional, and Latinos Against the War.

A statement from the organizers says, “With immigration reform legislation apparently dead for this congressional year, immigrant rights leaders in Los Angeles and nearby counties are gearing up efforts to mount the struggle for immigration reform, that is the national efforts to empower the 13 to 15 million undocumented immigrants and their families throughout the presidential campaign.”
http://www.fightbacknews.org/2007/08/aug18la.htm

firefoxfan asked:


Given enough TIME could the results be what we saw in the Balkans, with the split into ethnic political factions, and then ethnic states. If illegal immigration is not controlled, could this be the result? Wasn’t the May 1st nation wide protest organized to show political clout? (an often used phrase by the organizers) Why or Why not?
Why is the issue of illegal immigration given such precedence over the issue of abortion? One deals with life and death, the other, is a legal issue. Wouldn’t life and death be a more important issue? Why weren’t there mass protest organized and supported by the catholic church? Didn’t they support illegal immigration in a very vocal way?
I do not think the May 1st protests worked to their advantage. I may be proven wrong later on. We’ll have to wait and see.
“economic terrorism”…Interesting thought. Thanks for inspiring another question!

Bungie asked:


Subject: Re: Illegals want to make a statement

> Hi - I received this in an email from a friend today. Just thought
> y’all might want to know about this.
> Glo
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> WASHINGTON (AFP) Immigrants’ rights advocates, elated by the
> resounding success of Monday’s “National Day of Action,” which drew
> the backing of hundreds of thousands of protesters across the United
> States, now are planning a national boycott which they hope will have
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> Organizers are planning the May 1 “Great American Boycott,” urging
> illegal immigrants — who cannot vote and who have only limited
> political power — to flex their economic muscle.
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> Protesters are being urged to refrain from shopping, and to stay away
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> You should take a moment to let that sink in.
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> This is a movement orchestrated by people who entered the US
> illegally, and then want to scream about their “rights.” WHAT RIGHTS?
> YOU DON’T EVEN BELONG HERE!
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> Let’s take a look at some of the many benefits that illegal aliens
> have blessed our great country with: Street gangs, graffiti, drugs,
> skyrocketing healthcare, depreciation of property value, illiteracy.
> The list could go on. What they actually have to offer (cheap labor)
> pales to what they have given our country to deal with. I’ll take
> expensive vegetables over expensive healthcare anyday!
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> And now, like terrorists, they are going to attack our economy — the
> one entity that makes our nation stand out from all the others. The
> backbone of our nation. The country they came to like locusts so they
> could reap the benefits is now the focus of their boycott. You’ve seen
> it on TV: Marching on our American streets waving their Mexican
> flags, boldly showing that they can be more racist than who they
> accuse of, and yet the obvious is totally oblivious to them……
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> IF YOU’VE GOT IT SO BAD HERE, THEN LEAVE!!!
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> To all the real Americans, you can do one small thing on May 1st,
> 2006. It won’t be racist, nor will it be violent. It will not be
> boastful, arrogant, selfish, nor distasteful. It will not be any of
> those things that our “guests” have already displayed. What it will
> do is nullify a movement.
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> All you have to do is buy something on May 1st. Make up for what they
> will try to take away. It doesn’t have to be a new car or house
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> Those are just a few suggestions. We’re not asking you to spend your
> inheritance that day, but just to spend more than you normally would.
> Even if it’s only a few dollars, this will help soften the blow that
> the Mexicans will try to inflict on our economy that day. It sounds
> trivial at first, but if this idea gets around, what the Mexicans set
> out to do will fail.
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Zoe asked:


Why are we importing poverty. This isn’t because these immigrants aren’t hardworking; many are. Nor is it because they don’t assimilate; many do. But they generally don’t go home, assimilation is slow and the ranks of the poor are constantly replenished. … It is a conscious policy of creating poverty in the United States while relieving it in Mexico .
Immigrant-rights organizers …seem to be saying there is some inherent right being expressed when people sneak into the country, thumb their noses at the law, and make fools of those who wait patiently in foreign lands for visas to come to the United States.”What we are witnessing is not the birth of a new civil rights movement but the attempt to render meaningless the concept of border controls.” The spectacle of illegal alien residents lecturing citizen hosts on what was permissible in our own country.”Why want Washington toughen enforcement, penalize employers who hired undocumented workers and make border crossing more costly. Then fewer people will move illegally to America?

Kize asked:


Advocates on here claim illegals are not soaking up welfare and our gov. services. If they are not, Why would activist ask for welfare to end for illegal alien lawbreakers?
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Activists Seek End to $640M Calif. Welfare Program for Illegals

Monday, July 13, 2009 11:53 AM

By: Dave Eberhart

Activists in California are pushing for a ballot initiative that would end public benefits for illegal immigrants and terminate welfare payments for their children, according to a report in The Los Angeles Times.

Organizers have kicked-off a drive to gather the 488,000 voter signatures required to qualify the measure for the June 2010 election. It has been a slow start, however, with only $350,000 in the war chest. Typically, statewide initiatives consume about $4 million at the signature-collecting phase.

Supporters of the initiative further want to challenge the citizenship of children born in the United States to parents who are here illegally, San Diego political activist Ted Hilton told the Times.

Hilton argued that the 14th Amendment states, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside.”

Since illegal residents are not “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States, their offspring should not be citizens, he maintained.

Hilton pointed to estimates that California’s 2.7 million illegal residents account for $4 billion to $6 billion (mostly schools, prison space, and emergency healthcare) of the state’s $105-billion budget.

“Are we going to continue asking taxpayers to pay for these services when the state is completely out of money?” he asked.

The measure would end state welfare to an estimated 48,000 households and 100,000 children — aid that now costs the state $640 million a year.

Hilton has been beating the drum against illegal immigration for two decades. With regard to the new initiative, his organization, Taxpayer Revolution, has gotten the seal of approval from Republican Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, the American Legion California chapter, NumbersUSA, Save Our State, and the California Coalition for Immigration Reform.

The California initiative follows similar measures in Oklahoma, Colorado Virginia, Arizona and Georgia, according to the Times report.

Meanwhile, proponents for the rights of illegal immigrants argue that illegal residents pay taxes — sales taxes on what they buy, gasoline taxes when they fuel their cars, property taxes if they own homes. The Social Security Administration estimates that in 2007, illegal residents nationwide contributed a net of 12 billion dollars to the system.

Peter Schey, a Los Angeles attorney who successfully challenged Proposition 187, a similar measure, said courts would most likely sink the initiative.

“This proposal . . . has no chance of surviving a constitutional challenge,” he told the Times. “It is plainly driven by racism and a desire to whip up xenophobia during difficult economic times for U.S. citizens.”

Proposition 187 was halted in its tracks when a federal judge ruled that the measure unconstitutionally usurped federal jurisdiction over immigration.

Mike Hethmon, an attorney with the Washington-based Immigration Reform Law Institute, told the Times that the latest measure passes muster under federal authority delegated to the states to restrict access to benefits and verify applicants’ eligibility.

Unlike Proposition 187, the new measure does not attempt to curtail access to education – keeping it square with the 1982 Supreme Court ruling that states could not bar illegal immigrant children from schools.

Some features of the initiative:

Would cut off CalWorks payments to the children of citizens or legal residents who fail to meet eligibility requirements for state aid because they are unwilling to work, addicted to drugs or absent.

Would require that applicants for birth certificates verify their legal status.

Would require that those applicant for birth certificate unable to verify their legal status produce official identification from a foreign government, a record of any publicly funded costs for delivering the child, and other information before receiving their child’s birth certificate, which would be marked with the notation “foreign parent.”

http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/california_welfare_end/2009/07/13/234879.html
grease - read the question, it is about reforming the welfare system, not giving illegal lawbreakers reform, wow. you read one word and went off in your own little world. Answer the question about illegal lawbreakers getting welfare!!
REFORM the welfare system and deny illegal aliens benefits???
sagey - READ the ARTICLE!! They want reform so illegal aliens do not receive any more welfare, why do illegal advocates have problems reading the whole article and answering the questions asked????